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Wolves Class Mech paint by shinsengumi77 Wolves Class Mech paint by shinsengumi77
WARNING: BAD QUALITY *runs* This is just a quick color scheme I was toying around with. Just used paint bucket to fill stuff in, because I wanted to see how it would look. I'm curious about what others think of the scheme, and what someone else might do instead. This concept is also still in development, as it didn't quite get the look and functionality I originally wanted. I'm working on modifying it, and want to finish a unit with full specs and solid coloring (well, solid enough without an editing program...)

So aside from the horrible quality, what do you think about the scheme? For a while I was thinking very dark, and then military green, and so on and so forth. lol
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asataylor Featured By Owner May 25, 2011
Perhaps some larger color areas to break up the design into sub-sections?
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shinsengumi77 Featured By Owner May 26, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Ooh, finally a comment on the scheme! :D Umm...I'm not sure quite what you mean, could you elaborate a bit? Do you mean more emphasis on a single color and less break up with the grays from the various metals? I really appreciate it! :D
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xxVectorZeroxx Featured By Owner May 24, 2011
very armored core-ry i love it, dont you think it is a little too big for functionalities sake?
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shinsengumi77 Featured By Owner May 24, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
lol Yeah I'm a big armored core fan! :D I like the idea of a basic unit which can be outfitted with various parts, rather than one complete unit that doesn't change much.

Actually the size has more to do with the nature of combat in my story. It would take a long time to type out the chronological development of the mecha in the story, so I'll just say that early on in the war, mecha were more like large suits, maybe 8 or 10 feet tall, and they were so effective against armored ground units and gunships that only fighters remained in wide use. Eventually the need for greater payloads led to the development of even larger units, until you arrive with what you see here.

The planet this takes place on is much larger than Earth and significantly more rich in resources, especially metals. New power sources also permit such development.

Whew! Sorry to rant! :D
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xxVectorZeroxx Featured By Owner May 24, 2011
rant away, i love new ideas!
due to the fact ive written a 10 page college paper on the viablility of mechs, i could shoot alot of holes into your mech reasoning. ask around. im a semi realist. still love my sifi!no really, love to hell and back mechs, but they will never be in rl commercially or tactially viable. still, great for stories and stuff! and that design is still really badass.
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shinsengumi77 Featured By Owner May 25, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
lol If you want to play that game, as a philosophy and english major I can say that assuming that you can 'shoot holes in my mech-reasoning' just because you have written a paper on mecha (and 10 pages is nothin') is a perfect example of a non-sequitur logical fallacy. ;) In any case, I fully realize that mecha are completely impractical in our world (this would be a good time to remind you that this is for a fictional story in which technology and resources far surpass that which are available for us.) Also remember that I didn't really provide you with much reason for it at all, if any. I just said that there were reasons, but they would require more typing than I want to get into. The story itself illustrates them well.

I'm actually fairly realistic, which is why my characters don't swing around fantasy weaponry (why fix what is tried and true?), but at the same time, since my story is sci-fi fantasy in which there are people with exceptional abilities, I can comfortably have use martial arts and blades to fight people with assault rifles. :p

En garde :katana:
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xxVectorZeroxx Featured By Owner May 25, 2011
YOU SIR *slaps with white glove* I CHALLENGE YOU. TO a DUEL OF TWITS! er.. WITS.

actually, ive typed, retyped, and argued so many damn times, with so many people.. i wish my computer didnt break down, id hand over that paper. it got lost with all my materials (cries) really its a pain in the ass, and you seem to already know and understand the TRUTH. so yeah whatever. oh! realy good scifi reasoning? id say Mass effect, so many physics rules they did manage to skirt with element zero! and alot of them are fairly accurate too if said materials where real. you could pull of mechs with a mass effect field.
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shinsengumi77 Featured By Owner May 25, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
*grabs glove, being bare-handed* I accept your challenge! :ninjabattle:

I just thought it was strange that you wrote a paper on mecha (things that don't even exist) and said that mine was somehow more impractical than others. You were coming off as though you were an expert on the matter, which to me is impossible, because it's pretty hard to be an expert on fictional items. You can write as many papers as you want on the subject, but unless you're a mechanical engineer from the future or another world who somehow has experience developing mecha, you really don't have a whole lot of ammo for your 'flawed mech reasoning' gun.

Even people like Mecha-Master and KaranaK who have amazing mech designs ere on DA would come off as a bit arrogant or pretentious if they claimed that any mech was more impractical than any other. I mean, technically speaking, Karanak's new deviation "God of Battelground" is thorough and structurally well thought out, but at the same time it is obviously not even close to practical or even possible.

Practicality wise, I'm fond of front mission mecha, but as there is nothing to go by to argue which is better or worse, I would say FM wanzers are just as practical as Evangelions or even the Power rangers' Mega Zords. :D
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xxVectorZeroxx Featured By Owner May 25, 2011
physics destroys mecha arguments. also financing, functionality and exsting military hardware. the paper i wrote was a simple project from college, i got lucky on the subject matter, realism in media. prolly not what the teacher was expecting (mostlikely cuz of the B), but i got away with it. im in the army now, i can see even more problems with mechs.
and yes, the GOB is shockingly cool. impractical, but by god amazing.
one second, i argued this out with a guy a a while back, they where trying to argue that mechawarrior was at all more realistic then gundam. and we all know niether are realistic in teh first place. dumb physics newbs bashing comes next.
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shinsengumi77 Featured By Owner May 26, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
I completely agree. I'm a hardcore mech fan, but dammit I know when something is impossible! lol :D:D:D People always say that mechwarrior is more realistic than the lighter-framed Japanese-style mecha (I'm thinkin' mine fits int his category), but all I can say to them is, well...mechwarrior uses lazers and plasma cannons and stuff. How is that realistic? And honestly I've seen the schematics for mechwarrior and they don't look all that functional. Of course neither do mine, but since it's fictional I'm cool with it. And Gundam is definitely far from realistic (especially the modern gundam series' like Seed and 00 -older shows like 0083 and 08th ms team at least tried to seem realistic, even with their impossible machines!)

I try not to argue too much about content (since no one ever seems to win), but rather about how the other person argues (picking up on breaks in logic and straw man scenarios, which are all too common.)

*replaces glove* I feel as though our duel is somewhat resolved, my good chap. What say you to a bit of tea and crumpets?
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